Thursday, December 11, 2008

Something I Heard

Maybe it was my imagination. I was listening to someone explain how it was impossible for atheists to have any meaningful conception of morality and ethincs. As the speaker was going on and on, I heard the following tucked away in one of his proofs for the necessity of a theistic solution to the conundrums that he put forth.



They are strangers. They do not know our ways. The ways of their women, their ways of cutting meat, they are not our ways.



These strangers' gods are not our gods. Different gods command different sacrifices. The rituals of these strangers may blaspheme our gods. We must take care lest, anger be visited upon us.



These are a danger to us and our kind. We do not know what sacrifices strange gods will demand. These strangers bring only fear to us, the favorites of our gods.




It was probably just my imagination.






2 comments:

  1. I am SOO MADD I just have to unload somewhere AND EVERYWHERE!!!!

    I am an atheist and I have grown very disheartened by our self-defeatist culture. I was corresponding with one of the biggest atheist bloggers – the guy who guys by the name of ‘Sabio Lantz’ (he acknowledges that this is not his real name) over at http://triangulations.wordpress.com

    I told him that he should read this new book called the Real Messiah by Stephan Huller which I had been turned on to by Robert Price. I wanted to reach out to every atheist blogger to tell them that we can finally disprove the entire rationale of Christianity at one fell swoop.

    He send me back a nasty email and then proceeds to slam the book in a manner which is worse than anything ever said about the Real Messiah by religious nutbars:

    http://www.amazon.com/Real-Messiah-Throne-Origins-Christianity/dp/1906787123/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246919916&sr=8-1

    His negative review of this book is a depressing demonstration of the selfishness and self-defeatism that often pervades individuals on our side of the debate:

    “My site and many others were spammed for the sale of this book. That alone is enough to stop me purchasing it until I hear amazing reviews from those I trust.”

    The point is that I actually sent him links to positive reviews for
    the book in Publishers Weekly:

    http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6640240.html&

    And a list of New Testament scholars who support the book:

    http://plainview.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/jesus-was-not-the-messiah/

    The aforementioned site was from a CHRISTIAN BLOG for crying out loud!!!

    Look at the objectivity even with these people when compared to us.
    Now I am not against someone having their own opinion about a book. ‘Sabio’ or whatever his fake name is can say whatever he wants about the Real Messiah IF HE READ THE BOOK. Yet it seems entirely self-defeatist to me for we atheists to deliberately sabotage a work whose specific intention is to destroy the Christian paradigm.

    Unlike our enemies in the Religious Right we are rarely united, politically naïve and basically content to sit around engaging in intellectual masturbation while our rights are systematically stripped away from us.

    My intention was not to spam anyone. I was simply trying to find a way for our side to go on the offense for once. We are always on the defensive while they (the religious folks) take shots at us.

    I thought the Real Messiah was special because it is centered around a physical object which the author found in the Basilica di San Marco in Venice. It is universally understood to have been taken there by Italian sailors stole from the most ancient Church of St. Mark in Alexandria in the ninth century. Huller demonstrates that the throne goes back much further than that - i.e. all the way to the beginning of Christianity in Egypt.

    In any event this throne is the real deal. It has an inscription written out in Hebrew letters and symbols which prove that Jesus was not the messiah of Christianity. Here are pictures of the throne:

    http://www.therealmessiahbook.blogspot.com

    We have to defeat the myth of Jesus Christ with another myth – a ‘rational myth’ to coin the language of Robert Price.

    I am not asking you to ‘join my cause.’ I just want to defeat the oppressive ideas of Christianity with freedom and rational discourse. Is that really too much to ask?

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  2. Uh, yeah.

    The most unchristian thought is discovering that all the theology, pseudo-ethical twaddle, and threats of eternal torment really aren't worth the aggravation of dealing with believers.

    My advice: get a life. Get laid. Find a girl (or boy). Worry about being happy in this life.

    For what it's worth, your post reads mostly like an ill-disguised plug for a really, really bad book by an unscrupulous author.

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